[Georgia_ahead] FW: Study Abroad
Bonnie Martin
bmartin at gpc.edu
Fri Sep 14 15:17:43 EDT 2007
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From: Disabled Student Services in Higher Education
<DSSHE-L at LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU> [mailto:Disabled Student Services in
Higher Education <DSSHE-L at LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU>] On Behalf Of Bonnie
Martin <bmartin at GPC.EDU>
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 2:41 PM
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Subject: Re: Study Abroad
Remember, 504/ADA are thresholds. It does not mean a college "should
not" provide access abroad. We had a deaf student planning a study
abroad a couple of summers ago. Our D/HH Coordinator was a certified
interpreter and a full-time staff member. We planned to pay her travel
expenses (flight, hotel and food) and she was to interpret as needed for
the whole 6 weeks. She, of course, was to keep her regular salary, but
that is from a different budget :-). When I showed administrators how
much "operating" money I could save doing it this way, they had no
qualms adding to the department travel budget.
Bonnie Martin
Georgia Perimeter College
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Stephen" < SAppell at VC.WISC.EDU>
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 1:45 PM
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Subject: Re: Study Abroad
Sorry to repeat Howie's typo. He meant Title II.
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From: Disabled Student Services in Higher Education
[mailto:DSSHE-L at LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU] On Behalf Of Appell, Stephen
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 12:43 PM
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Subject: Re: Study Abroad
Please take a look at what Howie says.
"OCR has taken the position that neither Title I of the ADA nor Section
504 apply overseas. This is based on a Supreme Court decision under
Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, which held that a law doesn't
apply overseas unless it specifically says it does. Neither of these
statutes say that they apply overseas. This is true regardless of
whether the program is run by the university or by another entity.
However, the laws would apply to everything that happens in the US in
preparation for the trip -- e.g., if you had a planning meeting for the
participants, you would have to provide an interpreter for the student
at that meeting."
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Howard Kallem
Office of Equity and Diversity Services
George Mason University
703 993 8730
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[mailto:DSSHE-L at LISTSERV.BUFFALO.EDU] On Behalf Of Stacey Reycraft
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 12:38 PM
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Subject: Re: Study Abroad
I'm with Carol on this one. It is my understanding that study abroad
programs can fall into two categories:
If the study abroad program involves the student enrolling in a
foreign institution or program, taught by foreign faculty, available
to foreign students, then US laws and regulations won't
apply. However, if the program involves the student enrolling in a
University sponsored program, taught and supervised by University
staff and faculty, available only to University students, and it just
happens to be taught in a foreign country, then US laws and
regulations may, in fact, apply.
This is a fascinating subject!
Stacey
At 11:27 AM 9/14/2007, Carol Burrowbridge wrote:
>I can't put my hand on the source right now, but I have always
>understood that if a study abroad class was for credit at a US
>university and sponsored by the US university, that students were
>accorded accommodations similar to those they would get at their home
>institution here in the US. I will try to find the source and
post it.
>
>Carole Burrowbridge, MS
>Coordinator
>Disability Support Services
>Mercer University
>Connell Student Center
>1400 Coleman Ave
>Macon, GA 31207
>Phone (478) 301-2778
>Fax (478) 301-2127
>
>
>
>Howard Kallem wrote:
>
>>Michael,
>>
>>Thanks for clarifying this for everyone. My original message was
>>incorrect -- I typed "Title I" when I meant "Title II." To be clear,
>>what I meant to say was that OCR has taken the position that neither
>>Title II of the ADA nor Section 504 of the Rehab Act apply to American
>>college students studying overseas.
>>
>>Howard Kallem
>>Office of Equity and Diversity Services
>>George Mason University
>>703 993 8730
>>
>>
>>Michael Yared wrote:
>>
>>>Howard, yes, the ADA apply overseas to any U.S. companies and U.S.
>>>subsidary regardless of whether they are the recipient of federal
>>>contracts assistance or not. see: Application of the Americans with
>>>Disabilities Act (ADA) for Overseas Employment & Foreign Employers in
>>>the United States at
>>>http://www.eeoc.gov/policy/docs/extraterritorial-vii-ada.html
>>>
>>>For U.S. federal employees with disabilities, Section 501 of the
>>>Rehabilitation Act of 1973 apply to them. They are working
>>>overseas/aboard for the Department of State, Department of Defense,
>>>the intelligence community, etc, etc. The federal government is
>>>excepted from the ADA.
>>>
>>>there is nothing about disability or disabled in Title VII of the
>>>Civil Rights Act of 1964. Why would OCR cited this law? There are
>>>intepreters in the UK who also know American Sign Language.
>>>
>>>All U.S. military installations and U.S. embassies overseas/aboard
>>>apply too under the Access Board at http://www.access-board.gov/ufas/
>>>
>>>for disabled kids of U.S. military personnel stationed overseas
>>>(Germany, Italy, UK, Japan, South Korea, etc) the IDEA apply too and
>>>Section 504 of the Rehabilitation Act of 1973 regardless of what the
>>>different general counsels at DOD of different presidential
>>>administration wrote/stated.
>>>
>>>see http://www.eeoc.gov/ada/adadocs.html and www.disability.gov
>>>
>>>Universities are spending millions of dollars for students of ethnic
>>>and racial groups. It should be the same for SWDs.
>>>
>>>Mike Yared
>>>
>>>>From: Howard Kallem < hkallem at GMU.EDU>
>>>>Subject: Re: Study Tour
>>>>
>>>>OCR has taken the position that neither Title I of the ADA nor
>>>>Section 504 apply overseas. This is based on a Supreme Court
>>>>decision under Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, which held
>>>>that a law doesn't apply overseas unless it specifically says it
>>>>does. Neither of these statutes say that they apply overseas. This
>>>>is true regardless of whether the program is run by the university
>>>>or by another entity. However, the laws would apply to everything
>>>>that happens in the US in preparation for the trip -- e.g., if you
>>>>had a planning meeting for the participants, you would have to
>>>>provide an interpreter for the student at that meeting.
>>>>
>>>>To be honest, I'm not sure what a study tour is. If it is a
>>>>required part of a course, then the university would likely be
>>>>required to provide the student with an alternative study tour in
>>>>the US that would meet the program's requirements (or identify one
>>>>at another school).
>>>>
>>>>Howard Kallem
>>>>Office of Equity and Diversity Services
>>>>George Mason University
>>>>703 993 8730
>>>
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